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Firewire® ( 1394) and USB (Universal Serial Bus) are two separate high-speed bus technologies that allow multiple devices to be connected to a computer. The two technologies are not integrated, andmeaning it is not possible to connect a USB device to a Firewire® port either directly. A Firewire® to cable for transferring digital video (DV) is available from at least one manufacturer, but it can be expensive and difficult to find. Even if you don't have a Firewire® to USB adapter cable, it doesn't mean that your are useless if you have a USB port, or vice versa. Several companies do provide dual hubs. This type of device has two ports in a single hub, which may be either external or internal; one port is used Firewire® and one for USB, allowing either type of device to function.
The combination hub is actually two separate ports combined into a single form factor for convenience; there is no conversion between Firewire® and USB taking place when you use one of these hubs. Another alternative is simply to add two separate cards, assuming your computer has enough available slots.
Firewire® and USB cards are both coming down in price, and adding whichever one is missing should not represent a major expense. Both Firewire® and USB are efficient, high-speed bus standards. A can support a data transfer rate of up to either 400Mbps or 800Mbps, depending on the standard, and a single Firewire® port can connect up to 63 devices and deliver a guaranteed rate of speed to each one.
Firewire® is often used for devices that require real-time operation such as audio and video systems because of this guarantee, and it is also used frequently in storage area networks. USB can connect more devices (up to 127), but supports data transfer rates of only up to 12Mbps. It is more often used for standard peripherals, such as mice, modems, and keyboards. The USB 2.0 standard supports speeds of up to 480Mbps, which makes it more competitive with Firewire®. On 17 November 2008, specifications were released, with a transfer rate 10 times that of USB 2.0; consumer devices that use this standard were expected to be available by 2010. If you cannot purchase a Firewire® to USB adapter, using a hub allows you to use devices that are compatible with either technology.
Both technologies support Plug-and-Play and hot-plugging (hot-swappable). If the operation system on your laptop or desktop computers is not compatible with software of your digital camera, then the PC won't be recognize your camcorder and you cannot transfer video from camcorder to PC. For example,if your camcorder software just for Windows XP,2000, 98, then this software will not work with Windows 7 or another OS. Your PC will not recognize old software from your camcorder or will download it with errors (not completely download). That is the main problem, not firewire to USB.
I have a Canon DV600i Camcorder and a Panasonic DMR-EX79 hard-drive DVD recorder. I wanted to transfer my captured video onto my DVD recorder and bought a 4pin-4pin male plug from Maplin electronics (as both pieces of kit will support this).
Here's the rub. The Panasonic acknowledged the Canon and asked if I wanted to record to the hard-drive and when I selected it, the Rec button was greyed out and would not allow me to select. A few seconds later it came up with a message about not receiving the proper DV signal properly and took the camcorder from Paused/Play status (into which it had placed it) to Stop status. I have a USB port on the hard. I found a true firewire to USB converter (complete with proprietary conversion chip) but, sadly, it's sold out and the manufacturer has discontinued it.
It was designed to allow all of us with camcorders equipped with firewire (or Sony i.LINK) to download to laptops without firewire inputs. Since USB 2.0 is so much slower then firewire maybe someone should work on a firewire to eSATA converter since laptops seem all have an SATA input now. I've got four Sony camcorders with i.LINK out and a new Sony laptop with no way to connect. Microsoft recently added a v1394 set of instructions, somehow embedded in the new sp3 update. This has virtually nullified the firewire usage parameters, changed the speed, etc.
Now dv cameras are not recognized on the fire wire bus. There are various hot fixes released by Microsoft, but they don't work. Personally, I'm seeking a fire wire capture device, with its own integral hard drive solution.
There must be something out there. As a fall back option, I have a old imac which captures film OK, albeit the problem of getting the captured film from mac to pc, presents other issues. I to have the problem of hooking my DCR-TRV33 Digital Sony Cam. I have an XP tower equipped with express card firewire. It will work up to about a minute of capture and then starts to studder. This either with Windows Movie Maker or Video Studio X3. Sony won't give me an answer, nor will MIcrosoft.
I have an old Imac and it is running rock solid. Apparently the newer driver for XP had to be updated to accommodate the newer Sony cams. So the silly protocols start at 800 and jump down to 400 and then it dies. Anybody have a solution other then buying a new imac or some way to stream my data for the mac to pc or firewire to sata or firewire to ethernet? All of which I can't seem to locate.
I have tons of tapes to dub and convert to DVDs. Anybody else suffering? How about solutions! I too experienced the problem of reduced quality transferring Mini DV footage over via USB. What I did manage to find out is when transferred via USB, the camera or software slightly compresses it with the result of quality reduction. I did a big wedding for a friend and couldn't work out what was happening, when streamed directly from cam to TV the picture was perfect, but after transferring via USB it was poor.
The answer was to use the Firewire port, no compression and the same quality from source was transferred. #69 by anon74003: 'Why the hell would USB lose out? What difference does connector make USB 2.0 440Mb/s and FW 400Mb/s.
If there is every any loss in quality is due to some compression or file conversion going on before it gets to the cable connectors or in whatever is being used (software) to capture.not the transfer method.' Most miniDV camcorders equipped with both Firewire and USB connectors use USB connection only to transfer reduced quality video (or captured photo on their memory card), suitable only for a webcam. Don't know the exact reason, don't even understand. #68 by anon74002: 'its all 1s and 0s. I had a xbox controller which I clipped off the end, clipped a usb end off a usb cable and soldered the wires together, and guess what? I have a working xbox to usb controller for my PC. Its all just wires.
You're just getting data from point A to B. Just cause the 'end is different' doesn't mean it can't work. Take it apart and make it work!'
I doubt you know anything about computers. Yes, it's all 1s and 0s, but they form commands. Firewire devices do not speak USB commands. USB and Firewire are totally different protocols. I have a question that I can't find the answer for. I am planning on recording my PS3's gaming footage with a camcorder via hookups, but to upload it to the pc after recording it calls for connecting the camcorder to my PC via Firewire.
One end is suppose to go into the camcorder and the other is suppose to hook up to the firewire slot on the pc. Well, I don't have a Firewire slot on my pc, is there anything I can do? And if anyone knows of a camcorder that I can do this with that integrates USB to the PC instead of firmware please let me know also. 'anon64088: Try connecting your Mini Dv camcorder via USB transfer it over footage via whatever software you wish to use, then compare the same action via a firewire transfer.
There will be a clear difference in quality, with USB losing out. ' Why the hell would USB lose out? What difference does connector make USB 2.0 440Mb/s and FW 400Mb/s. If there is every any loss in quality is due to some compression or file conversion going on before it gets to the cable connectors or in whatever is being used (software) to capture.not the transfer method. Capture with the same standard using both firewire and usb and you'll see they are the same. 'I've worked with computers for the past five years in both a computer shop and currently in an electronics store. It is impossible to connect USB to firewire.
They are two totally different connections. Usb is for data only; you cannot carry video along usb unless you get a bulky conversion box in between the two ends.
anon65527' You work with computers yet know nothing about electronics then. What do you think you're working with? Its all the flow of electronics over a conductor. 'It is impossible to connect USB to firewire. They are two totally different connections' It's all 1s and 0s. I had an xbox controller which I clipped off the end, clipped a usb.
Re: 'Sorry, but there cannot be a reduction in quality in the digital world. You either got it or you ain't.' Anon60488 This is why I hate the internet. That's about the dumbest statement I've come across yet on the Internet which is seemingly filled with an infinite number of 'expert' opinions. I don't know what planet you're from, anon60488, but here on earth, in the world of audio recording, the quality and design of things like the conversion circuitry absolutely have an obvious effect on the quality of the recordings produced. If 'there cannot be a reduction in quality in the digital world' were true we'd all be using cheap Dell laptops instead of top-of-the-line Macs. Well, like most people on here i have a MiniDV camcorder and my brand new laptop doesn't have a firewire port!
My fault really, as I forgot about using my camcorder. Anyway, the long and short of it is merely connecting your firewire head to a USB port via some sort of adaptor does work, however you will still experience the quality reduction with the movie footage. The only solution is if you have a laptop with an expansion slot (PC Card / ExpressCard) to allow you to add a firewire connector. If, like me, your laptop doesn't even have an expansion slot, you have few options available to you. Live with the poor quality footage via USB, or buy a new camcorder. Bummer, I know. It's a nightmare of mismatched standards that these jerks selling products play.
DV camcorders have firewire outputs only, but most PCs and even the new Apple Macbook (13' Aluminum) doesn't have Firewire port as input. So there's no freaking way you can download video files from camcorder to a computer unless your computer has that firewire port. All the cables sold in market as Firewire - USB doesn't do a squat. I wasted my money, and am resolved with fact that my videos will only stay on cassettes. I’m an amateur musician and want to purchase an audio/midi interface for my guitar, keyboard and/or mic into a PC (Vista 32).
I don’t want to purchase a toy, yet money is keeping me from spending twice the price for a firewire device vs usb. If I purchased a USB device, is there an adapter or cable that someone could recommend to convert that USB to firewire? Assuming there is, might I be saving money doing it that way? And, if so, what am I gaining anyway?:-) I’d appreciate any thoughts you have. Thanks, Richard -Los Angeles. Hello folks old dino here.
Kindergarten level of computer knowledge lol! My question: I have a Canon Camcorder that uses a DV cable to transfer video to a PC, but my PC only has USB ports. It also has an Av cable to view videos on TV. I have Windows Movie Maker, and ROXIO Creator (not sure how updated). I would like to transfer my videos from the camcorder which uses mini DVs and I would also like to transfer standard VHS tapes.
I'm a complete idiot so please bear with me. My CPU has Windows XP. My computer is a Dell Vostro 200 it has an Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80 GHz processor, and 1.79 Ghz with o.99 GB of RAM.
Can you tell me if my CPU has enough capability and if so what accessories would I need to get there? Thanks so much! I am in the same dilemma with most of the posts above. I want to import videos from a camcorder with firewire port but only have a laptop with usb ports. Bought a firewareusb cable and nothing happens when I connect the camcorder to the laptop. Would expect that the cable has a chip that does the conversion since it doesn’t come with an installation disk.
Spent the past couple of hours searching for a driver online without luck. I am yet to read of anybody that has success with the cable and am also asking the same question as anon6218, why are sites selling the cable when it does not work? Anybody knows where I can get a driver or something to make it work? Doubtful as dual access hard drives (usb/firewire) still have to be written/read to from the connecting device so unless your camcorder has the option to record or transfer data to an external hard drive, there's no way for you to get the data from the camera to the hard drive. As for you folks trying to use a cable to connect firewire into a usb port, unless the cable comes with the required software drivers (windows doesn't have one built in) you can't do it, simply because firewire and USB are not just about the cable, they're actually compression algorithms, so by plugging a firewire device into a usb slot would be like having a Chinese person trying to speak to a Russian, without an interpreter(which would be the driver) they wouldn't understand each other and you'd get gibberish. Okay, so i bought a cord ('Simo' is the brand) that connects from multiple othe cords on one end (including fire-wire 4-pin, most importantly) and then USB and normal firewire on the otherside. Now, the laptop i use does not have a firewire slot on it for some reason, and when we bought a firewire CARD.card.
it did not work. So i bought the multible-cables one, and it still is not registering that there is a camera. It's making the sounds recognizing a usb being plugged in, but that's it. Does this mean i got ripped off and it really.doesn't. connect firewire to usb?
Its got this little box between the bundle of other cords and the two, is this almost like a hub? The statement '.it is not possible to connect a USB device to a Firewire port either directly or through the use of a Firewire to USB adapter' is false if we assume the term 'adapter' to mean more than a simple cross-wired cable. Several previous posts have correctly outlined how such a conversion could be done. This is also already being done to convert several legacy protocols: Serial-USB (not as simple as one would think and requires chips-on-cable); PATA/SATA-USB; PATA/SATA-Firewire; SCSI-FireWire; etc.
Pretty much any USB or Firewire device is already doing similar types of bridging - Ethernet-USB; WiFi-USB. Unfortunately, as far as i know, no one sells a generic USB-Firewire or Firewire-USB converter - yet!
I'm hoping that at the very least the USB-Firewire video cable mentioned by several above gets Mac OS X and Windows Vista driver support. Where can i find a dual/usb hub? My laptop doesn't have an express port or a firewire port and thus has no way of getting firewire, however according to this article there are usb/firewire hubs but so far i haven't found any online that does this. ADS DLX-182 Tech Dual Link Hub and the weird LaCie hub were ones i was looking at, however on the bottom of the ADS one it says note: this unit does not convert USB to FireWire or vice versa and i have no clue how the LaCie hubby connects to the computer or if it will connect a firewire device through usb. If anyone knows a device that works can connect a firewire device to my usb port or if anyone knows more about these two devices please respond thanks. We're trying to import video from the Sony DCR-TRV19 Handycam onto a Mac.
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Unfortunately, it's not being recognized as a drive. It supposedly works on the camera owner's Mac at home, and did not need any separate software or drivers. I didn't find any Mac drivers for this device anyway when I searched.
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The owner seems to think the problem is due to the camera needing a firewire cable to import, but the socket is clearly for a USB cable and is marked as such. The owner believes he used a firewire cable to import before and that we need a 'USB to firewire' cable. This article claims that no such thing exists, so.can anybody else offer any ideas on what the problem might be? I would like to connect my 16GB flash memory drive to my iMac. The drive is USB 2.0 of course, and my iMac's USB ports are SLOW (USB 1.1). My iMac has a nice juicy Firewire connection (fast) that I would love to plug my 16GB drive into.
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Obviously just converting the connection form factors is not sufficient as Firewire and USB protocols are completely different, plus the data rates are different. However, there is no question that such a conversion can be done by means of a 'bridge' acting as a broker between the Firewire and USB connections. The broker basically 'translates' between the 2 different protocols and does some buffering. This is what the 'movibox' mentioned above.
